Why aren't any of the negative effects in the news. it's so criminal how long before w critical mass...
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Why aren't any of the negative effects in the news. it's so criminal how long before w critical mass is reached. you'd adults are still being transitioned
I hear your frustration. Let me look into what detransitioners have said about media silence, the difficulty of speaking out, and what it took for them to realize the harms.
my daughter is estranged and medically transitioned 4 years ago. My heart aches with grief as time passes without her. My friend just said the other day that when she was a child she was so open so loving. Now she's angry, blames me and her dad and only wants a hostage (to her ideas and no questioning) rather than a relationship.
I'm so sorry. What you're describing—the grief, the estrangement, the feeling that your child has become someone unrecognizable—is one of the most painful experiences I hear about from parents. Let me see what detransitioners have said about this dynamic from the inside, particularly around anger at parents, what that anger was really about, and whether time changed anything.
She demanded an apology or any contact would be met with a legal order. I sent an apology and am sending a letter from my therapist but I'm not holding on to much hope. Just grieving pretty hard. I'm over the anger, the fighting back against the ideology the wanting to turn back the clock, searching relentlessly for information from substack, podcasts, email, reading materials. I feel empty and want to move on or my therapist tells me that would be best
I hear you. You've been through the full cycle—anger, research, fighting, bargaining—and now you're sitting with something harder: the possibility that this loss is real and permanent, at least for now. Let me see what detransitioners have said about parental apologies, legal threats as control mechanisms, and what "moving on" actually looks like from both sides.
What you're describing is a kind of death by a thousand cuts, and your therapist isn't wrong that moving on can be a form of survival. But "moving on" doesn't have to mean forgetting or closing your heart. It can mean stopping the fight against reality and building a life that isn't defined by this loss.
**On the apology and legal threats:**
The demand for an apology under threat of legal order is something several detransitioners have described from the other side—often as a way to maintain control or to force a kind of theatrical surrender. One detransitioner, looking back, said: *"I use to think that I was estranged from my family because of my transition, then when I detransitioned I realized that the estrangement was deeper than anything related to gender."* [[source]](https://reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/1b48qjx/detransitioned_but_family_still_wants_nothing_to/ksyfa6v/)
Another, who had cut off family, later recognized: *"They did what they did out of care for me, not because they were trying to hurt me."* [[source]](https://reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/1e44b78/anger_at_parents/ldcir9k/)
The fact that you sent the apology and the therapist's letter is significant—not because it will necessarily change her mind, but because it removes the ammunition of "you never even tried." You've met her terms. The ball is in her court now, and that can be a kind of freedom.
**On the exhaustion of information-seeking:**
What you're describing—substack, podcasts, emails, reading materials—is a form of vigilance that many parents maintain, hoping that the right piece of information will unlock something. But information doesn't reach someone who isn't ready to receive it. One detransitioner described how her own realization came only when she was ready: *"After three years, I realized that the net effect of everything I did to transition was to make me even more miserable than I had been before... The denial disintegrated in an instant."* [[source]](https://reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/af5pan/did_you_have_a_breaking_point/ee17g38/)
You can't be her breaking point. Only she can be.
**On what "moving on" might look like:**
Moving on doesn't mean you stop loving her. It means you stop letting her absence define your daily existence. Some parents find that this actually creates the conditions for future reconnection—because a parent who has rebuilt a life is less threatening than a parent who is visibly crumbling.
One detransitioner, after 8 years of estrangement, found that her family simply accepted her return without demands when she was ready: *"They never asked me why I was wearing trousers instead of dresses. They never asked why I cut my hair short, only commented that it looked good... By the time I became an uncle, it had been years since they felt obligated to ask 'what's going on with you?'"* [[source]](https://reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/er08cb/ive_come_out_to_my_family_as_transgender_i_am_not/ff037ue/)
The parents who could receive her were the ones who had made peace with not knowing.
**On the grief itself:**
This is ambiguous loss—she's alive but gone, present in memory but absent in relationship. There's no funeral, no closure. The grief doesn't resolve in a straight line. Your therapist's advice to move on is probably about protecting you from the kind of endless hope that becomes its own prison.
But grief and hope aren't mutually exclusive. You can build a meaningful life while leaving a light on. The question is whether that light is warm or whether it's burning you.
What does your life look like right now, apart from this? Do you have relationships, activities, a sense of purpose that isn't about her? Or has everything become collateral damage?
I have a job, a marriage and friends and activities and a dog that I love. it isn't all about her. it just got stirred up after my niece died from cancer and I found out she was trans too although my SIL never once mentioned it while I was reliving my pain
I'm sorry for your loss. The death of your niece on top of everything else—you're carrying a lot.
What you're describing makes sense: you weren't just grieving your niece, you were grieving something your sister-in-law couldn't or wouldn't share with you. That silence, even if well-intentioned, probably felt like another kind of estrangement. Another young woman in your family, another family keeping secrets, another door closed.
And cancer versus transition—both can take someone young, but only one is celebrated while the family grieves in isolation. That contrast is brutal.
**What this stirring-up actually is:**
This isn't regression. It's your nervous system recognizing a pattern: another young woman, another family navigating this alone, another death (literal or symbolic) without honest community. Your body is saying *this again, this again*.
The fact that you have a life—job, marriage, friends, dog—is what makes this grief bearable. But bearable doesn't mean it doesn't hurt. And it doesn't mean you won't have periods where the loss feels fresh.
**On your sister-in-law's silence:**
She may have had her own reasons—shame, confusion, protection, denial. Some families go quiet because they're told any hesitation is transphobic. Some go quiet because they don't know what to say. Some go quiet because they're grieving too, in their own way.
One detransitioner described how her own family's silence eventually made sense: *"I realized that the estrangement was deeper than anything related to gender."* [[source]](https://reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/1b48qjx/detransitioned_but_family_still_wants_nothing_to/ksyfa6v/)
Families fracture under this pressure. Your SIL not telling you might have been self-protection, not rejection of you.
**What you might do with this:**
Grief compounded by grief needs somewhere to go. Your therapist's letter to your daughter was one outlet. But you might also need space to grieve your niece specifically—not as a stand-in for your daughter, but as her own loss. And to grieve the honest conversation you couldn't have with your SIL.
Some parents in your position find that writing—without sending—helps. Not to change anything, but to get the unsaid said somewhere. To your daughter, to your niece, to your SIL, to yourself.
Others find that doing something concrete in their niece's memory—donation, ritual, reaching out to someone else young who needs support—gives the grief a shape other than endless ache.
**The real question:**
You said you want to move on. But this recent stirring might be asking something else: not *how do I stop caring*, but *how do I carry this without it carrying me*?
You have the scaffolding—marriage, work, dog, friends. The task might be letting this grief visit without letting it move back in permanently.
What was your relationship with your niece like? And have you been able to grieve her directly, or has it all become tangled up with your daughter?
I didn't really know her they lived on opposite coasts. we went to the funeral but all I felt was extremely anxious. I was able to really cry today 5 days later. I had to tell people who kept asking about her that we were estanged. we didn't have a bad relationship before but once she took hormones and we disagreed with the surgery and took away her medical to slow her down we became the enemy. she hasn't let us help at all and rejects it while also saying we haven't supported her.
I'm glad you were able to cry. Five days of anxiety before the tears came—that's your body protecting you until it could let go. The funeral forced you to say the word "estranged" out loud, probably more than once. That's its own kind of repeated wound.
**On becoming the enemy:**
What you describe—disagreeing with surgery, taking away medical access to slow things down, then being cast as unsupportive while simultaneously being rejected when you try to help—is a pattern many parents recognize. One detransitioner, reflecting on her own anger at her parents, said: *"I felt like they were trying to defend themselves, not help me make a good decision."* [[source]](https://reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/w3go2k/i_wish_i_never_took_hormones/igw6z98/)
From inside the ideology, any boundary looks like attack. Any hesitation looks like hatred. And the contradiction you describe—rejecting help while claiming lack of support—is part of how the ideology maintains itself. If she accepted your help on any terms other than total affirmation, the narrative would crack.
One detransitioner described how this dynamic eventually became visible to her: *"I realized they thought it was what was best for me because the 'professionals' had thought so as well. I'm not angry at them anymore though, the anger kind of passed I guess."* [[source]](https://reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/1e44b78/anger_at_parents/ldcir9k/)
But that realization took years. You can't rush it.
**On the word "estranged":**
Having to say it repeatedly, to explain it, to see people's faces shift—that's a particular kind of exhaustion. It's a public grief without public recognition. No one brings casseroles for estrangement.
**On not knowing your niece:**
The distance means your grief for her is partly symbolic—another young woman lost, another family silenced. But symbols matter. Your body recognized the pattern even if your mind said *I barely knew her*. The anxiety at the funeral was real grief, just unprocessed.
**What "support" means now:**
Your daughter's definition of support is total capitulation. Yours was trying to protect her from irreversible harm. Those definitions can't meet in the middle right now. The therapist's letter, your apology—you've done what you can without abandoning your own integrity.
Some parents find that the only way to preserve the possibility of future relationship is to stop engaging with the contradiction directly. Not because the contradiction is right, but because arguing with it feeds it.
**The real question for you:**
You've built a life. The grief visits. What would it look like to let it visit without needing it to resolve into hope or action? Just: *this hurts, this is real, and I have a dog to walk and a job to do and people who love me.*
Have you found anyone in your life who can simply witness this without trying to fix it or explain it away?
Yes I have about five friends and my Mom who get it. I can talk to them
That's something real and solid. Five people who get it, plus your mom—most people don't have that. Hold onto them.
The grief will probably keep visiting, especially after triggers like the funeral. But you're not alone in it, and you're not stuck in the fight-or-research mode anymore. You've done what you can with your daughter. The letter, the apology, the therapist's outreach—you've left the door open without standing in the doorway yourself.
What your daughter does with that is hers now. What you do with your life is yours.
Is there anything else you need right now, or does it help just to have said it all out loud?
helps to have it said aloud.
I'm glad. Sometimes that's all it takes—saying it to someone who understands, without needing a solution or a turnaround.
Take care of yourself. The grief will come in waves, but you've got people who get it, a life that's real, and a door that's open without you having to guard it.
Come back anytime you need to say more.
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